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  Where it all went wrong for the WT - JF Rutherford

  by LoveUniHateExams in

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  i was thinking a bit about this the other day.

  ct russell, from what i remember about him, kinda seemed like a genuine, nice(ish) guy, although he had a few eccentric but harmless ideas.. during the russell era jws (actually bible students) could still celebrate christmas, worship in other churches if there was no kingdom hall available, and accept blood transfusions.. then after russell died, along came rutherford - a major league a-hole, for sure.. rutherford had plenty of eccentric ideas but at least some of them weren't/aren't harmless.

  some have been long forgotten about - jesus depicted without a beard, the plan to rename the names of the week because names such as thursday (thor's day) is pagan, the articles about the 'dangers' of aluminium, etc.. one key contribution of rutherford which does a lot of harm is no blood transfusions, even in life-threatening situations.. another is shunning, something which never occurred under russell, or at least was much milder.. rutherford has a lot to answer for, i reckon ....

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  One thing leads to the other. CT Russell was accused by his wife of having sex with their underage foster child, and many others admitted him being cruel towards people in his immediate vicinity. He was a con-man at best and a swindling child molester psychopath at worst.

  Not that that proves anything, but most historians find this person to be very unimportant (as are JWs today) so he is largely forgotten, most of what we do know is either from public records or rewritten by the WTBTS or a few detractors, so I doubt we will ever get the true picture.

  You have to be some kind of special to put yourself above even God himself to become the Supreme Leader of any kind of cult, and from reading contemporary accounts and the old publications, that is what he made himself out to be and many people called it a cult. It wouldn’t surprise me a lot of things were swept under the rug by believers at the time as they do today and there may be paper records of investigations of authorities that ran into stonewalling by believers but now are slowly rotting away because this person is wholly unimportant to the majority of the world.
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  Where it all went wrong for the WT - JF Rutherford

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was thinking a bit about this the other day.

  ct russell, from what i remember about him, kinda seemed like a genuine, nice(ish) guy, although he had a few eccentric but harmless ideas.. during the russell era jws (actually bible students) could still celebrate christmas, worship in other churches if there was no kingdom hall available, and accept blood transfusions.. then after russell died, along came rutherford - a major league a-hole, for sure.. rutherford had plenty of eccentric ideas but at least some of them weren't/aren't harmless.

  some have been long forgotten about - jesus depicted without a beard, the plan to rename the names of the week because names such as thursday (thor's day) is pagan, the articles about the 'dangers' of aluminium, etc.. one key contribution of rutherford which does a lot of harm is no blood transfusions, even in life-threatening situations.. another is shunning, something which never occurred under russell, or at least was much milder.. rutherford has a lot to answer for, i reckon ....

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  Wasn’t Russel sued over Miracle Wheat and Millenial Beans too and lost?
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  Where it all went wrong for the WT - JF Rutherford

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was thinking a bit about this the other day.

  ct russell, from what i remember about him, kinda seemed like a genuine, nice(ish) guy, although he had a few eccentric but harmless ideas.. during the russell era jws (actually bible students) could still celebrate christmas, worship in other churches if there was no kingdom hall available, and accept blood transfusions.. then after russell died, along came rutherford - a major league a-hole, for sure.. rutherford had plenty of eccentric ideas but at least some of them weren't/aren't harmless.

  some have been long forgotten about - jesus depicted without a beard, the plan to rename the names of the week because names such as thursday (thor's day) is pagan, the articles about the 'dangers' of aluminium, etc.. one key contribution of rutherford which does a lot of harm is no blood transfusions, even in life-threatening situations.. another is shunning, something which never occurred under russell, or at least was much milder.. rutherford has a lot to answer for, i reckon ....

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  Note that the WTBTS / JW religion was split between Rutherford and Russelites (who are still around) after Russell’s death. It is notable that Russel himself split the religion from the Bible Students before him.

  The JW were the result of I believe a third or even fourth schism (if you include Barbour’s Zion’s Watch Tower) of the original WTBTS/IBS and approximately 3/4 of the group did not follow Rutherford in the last schism.

  There is sufficient evidence to show that he was a con-man (selling things like Miracle Wheat) and he had serious issues with the ladies resulting in his marriage and he liked to undercut and cheat his business associates out of money every turn he could. There are plenty of books to find on archive.org that talk about Russell’s dealings and ministry, he claimed, like the JW today to have knowledge of Ancient Greek, Latin and other languages but basically rip off other translations and put their own meanings in it. I remember he was put on trial for something and presented with a piece of a Bible fragment in an ancient language and neither recognized it nor could translate it. That is well described in court documents which one could look up if they were so inclined.
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  Polio is spreading in New York waters

  by Fisherman in

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  according to news reports, the polio virus has been spreading in ny waters since april of this year.

  polio is a crippling disease that affects the bones.

  i actually know someone that had polio and is crippled shrinking the length of his arm and leg.

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  It’s not spreading, it’s present in waste water, which means people are carriers. Note that this polio virus is a vaccine-resistant variant so the reason that it is “back” is that it never was there to begin with, it is new. Will it affect the next generation of children, who knows, but what is clear is that it hasn’t been eradicated.

  One person got infected from another person that indeed came from a third world country where they give live vaccines, so they were infected by a third world vaccine and came to the US, then spread it to another person.
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  My Prediction Regarding New Space Telescope That Will See Back to 100 Million Years From the Big Bang

  by Sea Breeze in

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  a new space telescope launched a few days age that will supposedly be able to see to within 100 million years of the big bang.

  wow... only 100 million years from the big bang.

  that is pretty early given the 12 billion year age of the universe assigned by scholars who adhere to naturalism.

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  You proclaim victory on a headline without understanding the details of what the headline says. You are a fraud as much as the WTBTS is when it comes to scientific reporting.

  What JWST found was stars and galaxies forming much earlier. You claimed initially that they would be fully formed and organized like they are today (a static universe).

  Not only is that proven false, the stars in your headline came from much smaller spaces, galaxies 100 times smaller than our own, which aren’t fully formed yet, which previously we would’ve thought would not have enough mass to form stars. That only shows that things clumped together earlier. You also have to have read the fact that these stars showed oxygen, as expected given their age, on the spectrometry which does support the hypothesis that earlier stars forged many of the heavier elements we know today and were nothing like the universe we know today, again the discovery you claim as a victory actually undermines your argument of a static early universe created in place.
  
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  A group of 136 countries set a minimum global tax rate of 15% for big corporations

  by Disillusioned JW in

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  a group of 136 countries set a minimum global tax rate of 15% for big corporations.

  that is a major goal accomplished by the biden administration.

  seehttps://www.wsj.com/articles/countries-agree-to-global-deal-to-curb-tax-avoidance-11633709979 .. if corresponding legislation gets passed into law in the usa it will be much harder for corporations doing business in the usa to move their operations out of the usa to avoid paying their fair share of taxes.

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  @Disillusioned: that is indeed the image that certain groups want to shape of the USPS, nevertheless, the USPS is deeply in debt, which is funded by the tax payer off course. They do funny tricks with the books, such as lending against their pension funds (which would be illegal for any other corporation in the US) and then having Congress bail out the pension fund, so it looks like they run even when they in fact raid the assets they promised their employees. The pension fund alone, due to unions is $120B in debt and missed their last 2 $60B payment (so they are actually closer to 2-300B in debt. The post office deficit from running services is $10B/year. Effectively the revenue to the post office needs to double or even quadruple overnight without increasing spending, this would make it cheaper to send most mail through FedEx or UPS.

  I’m sure you heard about the electric vehicle boondoggle that they are forced to buy. The postmaster generals say it won’t work, yet Congress purchased millions of dollars worth of vehicles that have no infrastructure to charge. All those things come out of our pockets.

  If you wonder why the politicians keep lying about the post office, look at the plans they have for it. Janet Yellen proposed the USPS to run a federal bank. They would use the deposits to fund government spending. It’s an endless bucket of money that nobody has the guts to just outright say: you’re on your own now, go compete like UPS and FedEx do because they’d be broke in a month.
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  Money donated for a specific reason

  by enoughisenough in

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  i decided to do this posting because of some comments in the post about pensions.

  in the mid to late 1980's there was a flood and the local kingom hall was damaged and many of the friends homes were damaged...groups came in to help repair.

  my then mother-in-law literally lost everything-she had no home to repair...she had been renting a small trailer and it washed away.

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  People begging for money rarely need it. I’ve heard similar stories, the elders keep complaining about everyone not donating enough, we were short $10-15k every year, then all of the elders started driving around in Mercedes and Jaguars. If they got a cheap car like most of us, they’d be able to donate the rest to their starving congregations.

  There are some people that are honest and good, but the majority, once you get a view of the accounts you see how much money is actually being collected, how much is going to the WTBTS and anyone that can put two and two together can do a back-of-the-napkin calculation.

  I was in charge of the congregation accounts, I started moving money from the Worldwide Work into the local congregation funds. Checks from the elderly, all in the local accounts. We were collecting over $1000/meeting from a very poor area. In the conventions, we were literally collecting thousands per collection, there were 8 throughout the day, they tried rotating enough people to count so nobody would get an idea of what they were collecting, yet at the end of the convention they were short by tens of thousands, and when I said to the CO - I counted more than what you said from the stage, the excuse was that the statement only reflects what they counted the first day. Disgusting.
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  Who do you think leaked the Trump documents location to the FBI?

  by GabeAthouse in

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  was it melania?

  don jr?

  or gary busey's son, eric trump?.

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  @Gabe: that would be unconstitutional. The legislative cannot override the executive privileges except through constitutional measures.

  I know there are laws on the books in regards nuclear stuff, the fact is that for 50+ years those laws haven’t been used to convict a person, even enlisted personnel, they have repeatedly been found to be unconstitutionally vague. Not only that, they have to present a “clear and present danger” to even be applied.

  The nuclear codes are changed frequently, once used they are no longer classified. The atomic energy act was abolished in 1974.
  
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  Who do you think leaked the Trump documents location to the FBI?

  by GabeAthouse in

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  was it melania?

  don jr?

  or gary busey's son, eric trump?.

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  It is rather public knowledge that presidents take home documents, even disputed ones. Obama took 30M documents home, Nixon, Carter and Reagan released the last of his documents in the late 2010s, JFK family is still holding on to a ton of documents about the Bay of Pigs debacle and subsequent Cuban missile crisis, some of those documents won’t be released by the JFK library for another 50 years or so presumably because they would be damaging to the image of the late President.

  Presidents have broad power over classification, since they are in charge of the entire executive branch, they can simply verbally say they declassify something and that’s it. Typically there are some lawyers and the President’s library going back and forth negotiating over specific documents, at no point has anyone raided the Bush family or the Kennedy family.
  
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  A group of 136 countries set a minimum global tax rate of 15% for big corporations

  by Disillusioned JW in

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  a group of 136 countries set a minimum global tax rate of 15% for big corporations.

  that is a major goal accomplished by the biden administration.

  seehttps://www.wsj.com/articles/countries-agree-to-global-deal-to-curb-tax-avoidance-11633709979 .. if corresponding legislation gets passed into law in the usa it will be much harder for corporations doing business in the usa to move their operations out of the usa to avoid paying their fair share of taxes.

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  included a minimum tax rate of 15% for big corporations

  It also included a much larger tax hike on the 50,000-200,000 brackets, it is calculated by the Senate’s own taxation committee, the average American will soon be paying approximately $4T extra (about $10-15k/person more, meaning a family of 4 will have to pay close to $6k more per year in taxes) which will go fully into effect by the time Biden gets out of office.
  
  Things such as capital gains taxes (which is basically a tax on your pension funds), making death a taxable event, any income is now fully taxed (so if you sell something on eBay or collect rent, there are no longer any deductions) and deductions such as business losses are permanently limited, excise taxes of 1900% on drug sales. Those are all taxes that INDIVIDUALS will pay, especially at the lower end, besides the taxes that businesses now will have to pass through resulting in massive inflation and unemployment.